Saturday, July 19, 2008

是基督徒就‘大晒’吗?基督徒那么圣洁吗?其他人都是罪人、妖魔鬼怪、垃圾、没用的废物吗?

你是基督徒吗?
are you a christian?

如果是的话,你是不是觉得自己的圣经最至高无上?
if so, do you think that your 'bible' is the greatest?

不管圣经说什么你都毫无反对地服从?
no matter what does the bible states you will follow fully, without any obligation?

你的圣经说同性恋是错误的,令人作呕的,神经的,愚昧的,所以应该被摧毁的吗?
your bible says homosexuality is wrong, sick, insane, stupid, and therefore should be eliminated?

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先别说同性恋。先说教会历史。
let's not talk about homosexuality first. let's talk about church history first.

过去的教会迫害科学家、支持奴隶制、反对民权运动、反对女性讲道、拒绝按立女性牧师。。。一切一切。
last time churches kill scientists, support slavery, disagree with democracy activities, against female preachers, refusing the ordination of female pastors, etc.

圣经不是说明了,这些是对的吗?保罗在腓利门书不是叫逃奴回去继续做奴隶吗?以弗所书六章5-9节、歌罗西书三章22节-四章1节、提摩太前书六章1-2节不是都在支持奴隶制度、反对解放奴隶的吗?在提摩太前书二章12节保罗明明写着说他‘不许女人讲道’的吗?

如果这些都是非常正确的话;那利未记十九章19节不是说着‘不可用两样搀杂的料做衣服,穿在身上’,申命记二十二章11节也不是写着‘不可穿羊毛细麻两样搀杂的料做的衣服’吗?

基督徒,你敢说你每件衣裤都是100%纯料制造的吗?100% cotton? 100% nylon?而没有50% nylon + 50% cotton的?如果有的话,你又怎样解释啊?你没看过这两段经文?所以不知者无罪?笑话!(世界上还不时有许多许多人没有看过圣经可是却被你们迫害致死!)还不快翻开你所谓至高无上的圣经?哈!你这个不道德,不遵守神的教诲,不可看圣经的假基督徒!忏悔吧!

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回到同性恋:
back to homosexuality:

逻辑上说,我们有什么错?你又以什么身份来说我们错了,如果我们真的有错?
logically, what is our mistakes? and what is YOUR identity to say that we are wrong, if we are?

我们同性恋滥交。
我们同性恋违反自然规律。
我们同性恋无法传宗接代。
我们同性恋肛交。
我们同性恋男生娘娘腔,同性恋女生男人婆。
我们同性恋人的结合不能生育。
我们同性恋人家庭领养的孩子长大后心理都有问题。
我们同性恋心里不快乐,许多同性恋者都自杀。
我们同性恋人数少,属于异类。
我们同性恋在很多宗教都属于罪恶。
我们同性恋男人/女人接吻很恶心。
我们同性恋引来社会人士的异样眼光,因为社会上一般人都反对同性恋。
我们同性恋不能生育,而生儿育女是每一个人的社会责任。
我们同性恋是西方人的不良文化。
我们同性恋最大的兴趣就是性,我们之间没有爱,关系也不长久。
我们同性恋小时候都受过性骚扰,心理不正常。
我们同性恋会骚扰小孩子,心理变态。
我们同性恋人家庭领养的孩子不知如何称呼双亲。
我们同性恋如果不是罪恶,为什么世人都反对了几千年呢?
我们同性恋如果可以相爱结婚,为什么乱伦不对呢?为什么人兽不能结合?
我们同性恋是一种病。
我们同性恋有许多男妓-甚至是未成年的小男生也被逼为娼。
我们同性恋者被鬼附身。
我们同性恋很讨人厌,看了就打从心底不爽。
我们同性恋者上pub和disco找寻对象,甚至能在厕所,按摩所里面直接‘上’。
我们同性恋男人只能通过肛交来‘爽’,而同性恋女人只能通过舌交和手交来‘爽’。
我们同性恋者我行我素,一点都不理会别人的感受。
我们同性恋男人跟女人混得非常熟,往往过于亲密,对女人意图不轨。
我们同性恋男人超级爱打扮-甚至比女生更美;同性恋女人都男性装扮,甚至比男生更帅。
我们同性恋男人都无法承担任何家庭的责任,无法赚钱养家,肯定不会孝顺父母。
*会在得空的时候慢慢写。哈哈。。。

除了上面所列出的理由之外,请问你们还有什么理由反对同性恋吗?有的话请你们留下你们的意见,别像那些自以为是的白痴传统基督徒一样-在真正理解之前就放个屁走人了。
what else reasons do you have, minus all the aboves? if you do have kindly comment. dont just SHOOT and LEAVE like stupid ordinary-traditional christians.

神学上说,我觉得不管我说了什么关于同性恋的,都没有什么说服力-因为我不是什么牧师(就算我是牧师也不见得你们会谦卑听从和服从)之类的。不是吗?
THEOLOGICALLY, its not my words you guys will really listen and most probably none of you will agree with me if i am 'preaching' you about homosexuality. fully agree huh?

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还有很多很多。。。懒得跟你们这些自以为是的假基督徒说。反正我说什么,你们都认定我是魔鬼派来的使者,旨在令人们犯罪,不是吗?哈哈。。。
there are still a lot and a lot... but im lazy to tell you fake christians here... well, no matter what i said, you will think that i am a satan, coming to confuse you so-called the great cleansed ones and make you all sinful, right? HAHA... yeah right.

噢对了,马来人的阿拉真神是鬼,印度人的妖魔邪神全是撒旦的手下,外国的神神鬼鬼-全都是假的,包括了圣母玛利亚也不是什么圣洁的神。只有你们的耶稣是真的。
christians, malay's Allah is ghost, indian's god and god are all satan's 'anak buah', the others are just fake and, well, fake, including st. mary also fake and not god. only your jesus christ the real one.

你们不是每天都这样说和这样强调的吗?就算没有说出来的,心里不是这样想的吗?
arent you kept on saying and emphasizing this? even if you din say it out, are you thinking like that too?

小心出门被人家打死。在还没开始传教之前就被人家打死,可怜吗?好像不会-被你们迫害的不就更加可怜吗?
be careful later go out kena killed. got killed before starting to preach, pity? i dont think so - arent those minors whom you all kept on going against more pityful?

有一个问题想要问你们这些所谓虔诚的基督徒:
one sincere question would like to ask you all the sincere and great christians:

如果经过诚实的讨论和探讨研究、思考之后,发现原来同性恋不是罪恶的话,你们愿意承认错误,转而支持同志运动吗?
IF IF IF IF IF after thinking and reading and seminars and whatever studies... and you found that homosexuality is not a sin, are you willing to admit your own mistake and then, support homosexuality in turn?

这就能够看出你是一个真的基督徒还是一个虚名的基督徒。
this will make it clear whether you are really a sincere christian or just a fake one.

阿门!
Amen!

英文不好,请见谅。以前曾经是基督徒可是现在不是了。有什么好可惜的?哈哈。还不是普通人一个。又怎样?
sorry, poor english. not as mighty as you christians mah. i was a christian but no longer a christian. haha. nothing to be sorry or pity loh. its still like this. so what?

我讨人厌的表姐3年前做的事情,我铭记于心。基督徒,放屁。
i still remember what my CHRISTIAN cousin did 3 years ago. i will never forget about it. shame on you christians.



引用欧阳文风的《神爱同志》,3nity于2005年出版。

6 comments:

william said...

hi leng chai, this post attracts me but i can't read chinese although i am chinese haha...
can you transalate the whole paragraph at part 2 & 3 into english? i read your post b4, you recommended a book but it was in chinese title.
the book is about homosexuality and related to christian. honestly i am the so called christian as well haha
i would really wanna know what this book is about. thanks dude...

regards

william

Tony Siti-Dewi Tonique Quah said...

Saturday, July 19, 2008
Is the Christian exposes to the sun greatly on `'? The Christian is so holy? Other people are the criminal, the demons and monsters, trash, the useless waste?

You are the Christian?
are you a christian?

If so, you thought that your Holy Bible are most supreme?
if so, do you think that your 'bible' is the greatest?

No matter the Holy Bible said that what you don't oppose the obedience?
no matter what does the bible states you will follow fully, without any obligation?

Your Holy Bible said that the homosexuality is wrong, revolting, nerve, ignorant, therefore should destroy?
your bible says homosexuality is wrong, sick, insane, stupid, and therefore should be eliminated?

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Let alone first homosexuality. The rigid theorizing meets the history first.
let's not talk about homosexuality first. let's talk about church history first.

Past church persecuted the scientist, the support slavery, the opposition civil rights movement, to oppose that the female explained religious doctrine, the rejection according to set up feminine pastor. . . All.
last time churches kill scientists, support slavery, disagree with democracy activities, against female preachers, refusing the ordination of female pastors, etc.

The Holy Bible not explained that these are right? Paulo is not called the running away slave in fei the advantage gate book to go back continues to be the slave? By book six chapters of 5-9, Colossians three chapters of 22 - four chapter of 1, Timothy six chapters of 1-2 are not are supporting the slave system, the opposition liberate slaves? Wrote obviously in Timothy two chapter of 12 Paulo was saying his `could not the woman explain religious doctrine '?

If these are very correct; That Leviticus 19 chapters of 19 not were saying `not available different adulterates the material makes clothes, puts in the body ', clothes which deuteronomy 22 chapters of 11 not write `not to be possible to put on the sheep capillarity hemp different to adulterate the material which does '?

The Christian, you dared saying that your each clothing was 100% pure material manufacture? 100% cotton? 100% nylon? But does not have 50% nylon + 50% cotton? If any, how do you also explain? You have not read these two sections of religious texts? Therefore knowing is not innocent? Joke! (in the world also often has many many people not to read the Holy Bible, but is actually persecuted by you lethal! ) also not quickly opens you so-called supreme Holy Bible? ! Your this morals, do not observe the god the instruction, cannot read the Holy Bible false Christian! Confession!

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Returns to the homosexuality:
back to homosexuality:

In logic said that what we do have wrong? What status us you by mistakenly, if we really had the mistake?
logically, what is our mistakes? and what is YOUR identity saying that we are wrong, if we are?

Our homosexuality indiscriminates in making friends and finding sexual partners.
Our homosexuality violates the natural law.
Our homosexuality is unable to be passed on from generation to generation.
Our homosexuality anal sex.
Our homosexuality male student is effeminate, homosexuality female student man husband's mother.
Our homogeneous lover's union cannot give birth.
After our homogeneous lover family adoption's child grows up, the psychology has the question.
Our homosexuality is not at heart joyful, many homosexuals commit suicide.
Our homosexuality population are few, belongs to the different races.
Our homosexuality belongs to the evil in many religions.
Our homosexuality man/woman kisses is very disgusting.
Our homosexuality brings in public figure's unusual judgment, because in the society the average people oppose the homosexuality.
Our homosexuality cannot give birth, but bears children is each person's community responsibility.
Our homosexuality is westerner's bad culture.
Our homosexuality biggest interest is a nature, between us has not loved, the relations are not long-time.
Our homosexuality received the sexual harassment in childhood, the psychology has not been normal.
Our homosexuality will harass the child, the psychological abnormality.
Our homogeneous lover family adoption's child did not know how to call the parents.
If our homosexuality is not an evil, the common people have opposed why several thousand years?
If our homosexuality may fall in love with the marriage, the incest isn't why right? Why can't the person beast unify?
Our homosexuality is one kind of sickness.
Our homosexuality has many sweetbacks - even is the underage young male student is also compelled for the prostitute.
Our homosexual is taken possession by the ghost.
Our homosexuality asked for the human to tire of very much, looks has not been feeling well since the moral nature.
On our homosexual pub and disco pursue the object, even can in the restroom, massage inside the institute on direct `'.
Our homosexuality man can only come `through the anal sex to be crisp ', but the homosexuality woman can only through kiss and personally hand over `to be crisp '.
Our homosexual sticks to one's own way of doing things, a spot does not pay attention to others' feeling.
Our homosexuality man mixes non-Changshu with the woman, is too often intimate, is illegal to the woman intention.
Our homosexuality man super love dresses up - is even more beautiful than the female student; The homosexuality women male dresses up, even is more graceful than the male student.
Our homosexuality men are unable to undertake any family responsibility, is unable to make money to support the family, definitely cannot the filial parents.
* in the time which will have free time slowly writes. Ha. . .

Reason which lists besides above, ask that what reason opposition homosexuality you also do have? Some words ask you to leave behind your opinion, do not look like the idiot tradition Christian who these think oneself infallible same - before the true understanding broke wind leaves.
what else reasons do you have, minus all the aboves? if you do have kindly comment. dont just SHOOT and LEAVE like stupid ordinary-traditional christians.

In the theology said that I thought that no matter I said anything about the homosexuality, does not have what persuasive power -, because I will not be pastor (I am pastor not necessarily you humbly will also obey with obedience) and so on. Not right?
THEOLOGICALLY, its not my words you guys will really listen and most probably none of you will agree with me if i am 'preaching' you about homosexuality. fully agree huh?

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Also has many. . . Is disinclined the false Christian who thinks oneself infallible with your these to say. What in any case did I say, you recognized that I am a messenger who the devil sends, is for the purpose of making the people crime, not right? Ha. . .
there are still a lot and a lot… but im lazy to tell you fake christians here… well, no matter what i said that you will think that i am a satan, coming to confuse you so-called the great cleansed ones and make you all sinful, right? HAHA… yeah right.

Oh has been right, Malay's Allah true God is the ghost, Indian's evil spirit evil god is the Satan, the foreign god god uncanny - is false, has included Virgin mother is not the holy god. Only then your Jesus is real.
christians, malay's Allah is ghost, indian's god and god are all satan's 'anak buah', the others are just fake and, well, fake, including st. mary also fake and not god. only your jesus christ the real one.

You are not mediate like this every day emphasize like this? Even if has not said that is not at heart thinks like this?
arent you kept on saying and emphasizing this? even if you din say it out, are you thinking like that too?

Goes out carefully by others is killed. Before has not started does missionary work by others to kill, pitiful? Probably - will not be persecuted by you are not more pitiful?
be careful later go out kena killed. got killed before starting to preach, pity? i dont think so - arent those minors whom you all kept on going against more pityful?

Some question wish asks you these so-called reverent Christians:
one sincere question would like to ask you all the sincere and great christians:

If after undergoing the honest discussion and the discussion research, the ponder, discovered that the original homosexuality is not evil, you are willing to acknowledge the mistake, transfers supports comrade the movement?
IF IF IF after thinking and reading and seminars and whatever studies… and you found that homosexuality is not a sin, are you willing to admit your own mistake and then, support homosexuality in turn?

This can see you are a real Christian is an unwarranted reputation Christian.
this will make it clear whether you are really a sincere christian or just a fake one.

Amen!
Amen!

English is not good, invites the excuse me. Before once was the Christian, but present not. What has to be a pity well? Ha. It is not average person one. Also what kind of?
sorry, poor english. not as mighty as you christians mah. i was a christian but no longer a christian. haha. nothing to be sorry or pity loh. its still like this. so what?

The matter which I ask for the human to tire of the older female cousin 3 years which ago do, I engrave on one's memory. The Christian, breaks wind.
i still remember what my CHRISTIAN cousin did 3 years ago. i will never forget about it. shame on you christians.



Quotes Ouyang the literary style "God To love Comrade", 3nity publishes in 2005.

translated using babelfish online... will re-read the whole thing and proof-read later... ><

william said...

thanks for the translation.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, I can only sigh at how you think about christians as a WHOLE. Not everyone is like that. Yes it is true that there are fake christians out there, but what about the real ones? Not every christian said that their Bibles are the supreme weapons out of the other scriptures. Because, even sometimes printed Bibles can be inaccurate. What really matters is the faith that we have in God and also believing that christianity is no a religion...but more of a relationship with God. I can only hope that one day...maybe one day...you will get to experience the love of God once again. Like you said...you WERE once a christian too. What actually made you decide that you wanted to believe in Jesus? Was it because you were forced? Or did you accept Jesus to come into your heart willingly? Think about. And btw, your christian COUSIN does not make up christians as a whole. Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure that you made quite a number yourself. So, don't put shame on other christians who did not do what your cousin did. I'm not trying to judge anyone here. I'm just giving my personal opinion and perspective on the subject of your post. Have a nice day. =)

Tony Siti-Dewi Tonique Quah said...

hi nameless guy.

do provide your identity :) take care~

tony.

chooi mun said...

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your pen pal, chooi mun